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October 14, 2011

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Naomi Farrar

I read this! I found it really interesting! I'm in the third year of my graphic design degree, and am writing my dissertation around the topic of the use of typography as a functional method of communication, as opposed to simply a visual feature.
I enjoy reading your blog Mike, thank you!

Theo

Hi Mike im a graphic design student and I read and enjoyed your article! I try to read as much as I can generally. David Pearson came and gave a lecture at my uni, love all his work. Id say generally designers my age dont take much inspiration from the postmodern typography your talking about. But maybe that just the people I know!

Greg Sweetnam

I enjoyed your blog, Mike, as always. Good to see John Gorham's work mentioned here. I posted something about him early this year (see link). His work should be more widely known.
http://gregsweetnam.wordpress.com/2011/02/07/john-gorham-the-graphic-john-betjeman/

Alistair Hall

Mike, some interesting thoughts there. I think the fact that 30-something designers (I can still just about include myself in that group) are looking to a different period for their inspiration may just be the cyclical ebb and flow of influence - any generation is likely to look to a different period for inspiration than the one their predecessors did. Perhaps it's something to do with what surrounds you as you grow up...

The other question, about designers not really caring about words - it reminds me of the hoary old debate about design vs. art. Whenever I'm asked about that, I always reply that it is the job of design to communicate a definite and specific message; whereas art can allow for lots of multiple interpretations.

As such, design for design's sake doesn't do it for me at all - if it shouts louder than the content, then it's not working right. A bit like the editing of a film - if it's too visible, then it fails. Of course, sometimes, the visual communication IS the prime message. But rarely.

I'm always glad to see design that celebrates its content, and that does its best to help it work.

Mike Dempsey

Hello Alistair - For me you have always been the kind of designer that really appreciates words. In my view that is something to hold onto whatever the current stylistic trend.

I hope your leg mussels have returned to normal after your epic ride.

Mike

Nat Hunter

Yes!

Anthony Smith

yes

Phil Dobinson

Yes

Iancul

Hello Mr Dempsey,
great article, as usual. I've always found it a bit weird how western designers seem to be so desperate to adhere to one style or another, to have design idols instead of inspiring sources.

Hopefully, the eclectism of the internet era has broken a bit this old vicious circle of style vs style, but even now, too many are designing just for themselves or other designers. We need to let go of the 'horse blinders'.

Best,
Iancu

Paul Bardo

Hi Mike,

You might remember me – I worked at CDT a while back… Anyway, yes, I read your blog and find myself torn. I thought Jan Tschichold's Neue Typografie was exactly what the world needed after 500 years of centred serif type! I too remember being influenced by the Designers Republic, WNA, April Greiman et al. We want people to push boundaries. Maybe we want to be the ones pushing them. We all still constantly look at other designers' work for inspiration. (Well, I can only speak for myself!)

But I could never bring myself to treat type like Carson did in Raygun. My contemporaries thought me a heretic at the time when I said that it might be art but made no sense as design if you couldn't actually read the type! I agree very much with Alistair there. Practical design must communicate the client's message as clearly as possible. If it doesn't, it starts to become self-indulgent art rather than design–which is fine if it's a personal project, but not so good if someone is paying you to communicate their message and you end up pushing yours. I always think of Beatrice Warde's wineglass analogy.

Rebecca Foster

Yes - absolutely!
I believe my job as a designer is to provide accessibility in it's purest and simplest form (however it is dressed up) - but I think the onlooker should be made to think a little too, not just to deliver the clients expectations but add something unexpected, beautiful, humorous - that's what drives me anyway, not the style but the thought process to delivering something special. P.s. Hello! x

Tom Callaghan

Mike, I enjoyed many of the examples you cited, and always loved Peter Savile's work, but ultimately, form follows function, and that function is to communicate content and meaning clearly. Of course, fonts, layout and so on add to emotional messaging, artistic intent and so on, but if I can't read it, then what's the point. If you get noticed but not understood, then you've wasted the clients' cash. I remember arguing with Paul Arden that advertising/design is not art, since they already have a pre-determined intention underlying their creation, or what we call propaganda. Maybe that's true of Christian figurative art as well (though not, I think of the abstract styles used so much in Islamic art). Or perhaps, as a mere copywriter, I'm missing the point...

Graphic design los angeles

Amazing how simple it can be to communicate with people and have them understand a certain topic, you made my day.

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